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It's great to see all of the...
Back to page topIt's great to see all of the Kids First members out, wearing their T-shirts to support a good cause. Our kids are important, and volunteering time and tax dollars to our schools is a key to their success.
A referendum is just one way you can help your local school district. Use your talents -- and your money if you please -- to help educate our schoolchildren.
(Mathias Baden is the editor of the Jordan Independent. He can be reached at editor@jordannews.com.)
Schools are primarily funded...
Back to page topSchools are primarily funded through aid paid directly to school districts by the state. However, the amount the state has funded school districts over the past several years has not kept pace with inflation. As a result, the majority of school districts in the state have a referendum that provides additional dollars to operate and maintain educational programs. The Jordan school district over the past several years has both committed funds from its fund reserve and reduced expenditures as a way to maintain the quality programs our community values. However, like any organization, using fund reserves is a short-term solution and the time has come for the Jordan school district to ask its residents for additional funds to maintain educational opportunities and programs into the future. The amount being asked of taxpayers in our district is relatively low compared to many other districts in the area. That can be attributed to very sound fiscal management by our district leaders. The payoff of a successful referendum is a quality school system and a quality school system means a strong community! That is what I want for our kids and that is why it is so important that the community supports this referendum!
The proposed school...
Back to page topThe proposed school referendum would garner $425 per pupil units. What's the projection of the total amount that will be received, then? How does the district figure the projections for how many pupils will be in the schools?
Also, a pupil unit isn't actually one person. Does anybody know of a good link to information about what is a pupil unit? I know it's a complicated definition, and I haven't studied up on it since I don't have kids.
(Mathias Baden is the editor of the Jordan Independent. He can be reached at editor@jordannews.com.)
The amount would be...
Back to page topThe amount would be approximately $640,000 in the first year of the levy. Projections for future enrollment are usually determined by using the average change in enrollment historically. For example, the Jordan School District has seen an increase of 404 pupil units in the past eight years. That averages to around an increase of 50 pupil units each year.
It is important to remember that a levy referendum gives a school board the authority to levy up to the approved amount of money. The school board must vote to use that authority annually. The board can decide for any given year to actually levy only a part of or none of the amount it is given authority to levy. This would depend on the specific revenue and expenditure situation for that year.
A pupil unit is a complex definition and does not necessarily mean one individual person. For example, initially every student enrolled in a school district is counted as 1.0 pupil unit. Then, to account for differences in the resources necessary to provide an education to elementary and secondary students, each student is weighted depending upon the grade they are in. Kindergarten students are weighted .557 of a pupil unit, students in grades 1-3 are weighted 1.115 pupil units, grades 4-6 are weighted 1.06, and grades 7-12 are weighted 1.3. There are also some other formulas the state applies as well before the actual number of pupil units is calculated for a district. However, the weighting mentioned above is the easiest way to understand in general the difference between the number of students physically enrolled in a school district and the number of pupil units the state calculates for a school district.
Who wouldn't take all the...
Back to page topWho wouldn't take all the money he is given? Are there actually examples of school boards that did not tax people as much as they were allowed? I'm sure there are examples out there.
But I think a lot of people are asking those questions. They are fair ones to ask.
I trust the Jordan School Board and its administration. From my limited experience, I feel that Superintendent Larry Kauzlarich, Chairman Ira Beckman, and the rest of the board are honest and fairly open about financial issues.
What factors into the decision of an elected official who is faced with whether or not to levy the full amount of taxes allowed by a referendum? When would a board deviate from taking all of the money it is allowed to take?
(Mathias Baden is the editor of the Jordan Independent. He can be reached at editor@jordannews.com.)
I have to agree with who...
Back to page topI have to agree with who would not take all the money given. I have lived in the district for the past 26 years. I trust the board. That is not really the issue.
A few years ago as a group of voters we dedicated 25 million plus for a new school and all the options that were seen as needed. We built a nice school system for the future. We also felt that we were building a future. With that goes the responsibility to use our tax base wisely. That was based on need. The need was the driving force behind it.
I am failing to see the needs of the school with a surplus of dollars. It may well mean that in 2 years we are out of money. Then it would seem fiscally appropriate to ask the taxpayers for more. Most of us live paycheck to paycheck. I see no reason for the school board to behave in any other manner. Especially after the choice we as taxpayers made to fund a new school. To be able to take the money whether they need it or not. I am going with the board will take, because the needs will always be there. A 10 year referendum is a signed blank check. I cannot support the idea behind it.
KoolD
The Jordan School District...
Back to page topThe Jordan School District is a very well-managed school district. That can be directly attributed to the fudiciary responsibility that the superintendent and the elected members of the school board take very seriously. The decisions they would need to make in the years following a successful levy referendum are hard to predict. However, given their past fiscal record, any decisions to spend the money available through a levy would be made with a high regard for both student needs and taxpayer accountability.
One situation that could result in a school board levying an amount lower than the maximum approved by voters would be a substantial increase in funding from the state. Adequate state funding would reduce the need for additional revenue from local residents.
Any elected official represents their constituents and will be held accountable for their decisions. For me personally, that accountability is about using available resources to provide a quality education for our children and a quality school district for our community. If I know that the money they are spending is going torwards these two end results, then I know the money is being spent in good faith.
About the pupil units: Do...
Back to page topAbout the pupil units: Do the numbers flucuate based on the whim of the Minnesota Department of Education, then? Or do they stay the same for a number of years, before they are tweaked a little bit?
On another topic: What does Jordan Public Schools' surplus in money meant for construction of buildings have to do with last year's failed referendum for operations? They are two separate funds and purposes -- is the connection in the minds of the voters?
(Mathias Baden is the editor of the Jordan Independent. He can be reached at editor@jordannews.com.)
The factors used for the...
Back to page topThe factors used for the different grade levels are determined by the state legislature. I do not believe they have changed significantly for many years. The pupil units a district has each year do change because the number of students enrolled in the district changes each year.
Most school districts have a fund balance. Most private sector companies have a fund balance because it is good business practice. A fund balance is used to maintain cash flow to avoid short-term borrowing for paying bills, to save adequate resources for unexpected, emergency needs, to build up revenue for planned future needs, and to ensure strong financial ratings. The Jordan school district has been able to use its fund balance to maintain programs over the past several years despite no or below inflation increases in state funding. By doing this, the school district has had to make only limited budget reductions and has not had to seek approval of a levy referendum.
This is very unique as most surrounding school districts have either had to make substantial budget reductions or seek approval of referendum in amounts equal to or higher than the one being proposed by the Jordan school board.
Why is it necessary for the Jordan school board to request approval of a referendum? It is not a good practice to continue using up a fund balance and without additional revenue, budget reductions affecting class size and programs will be necessary.
For more information on the referendum please go to the Jordan school district website at http://jordan.k12.mn.us/ and click on referendum brochure.
I also want to encourage...
Back to page topI also want to encourage Jordan residents to carefully read the brochure that the "Kids First" committee has put together. It is full of good information. It should help answer any questions you may have reagarding "why" the school district is running a referendum.
The comments on the...
Back to page topThe comments on the referendum have been interesting. Dave Helke has done a good job of answering several questions. One question or comment I'd like to respond to is the question of the board having the ability to NOT levy the full amount yearly if not needed. It was suggested this would probably never happen. In fact, the board has done this in the past. The district has also lowered fees in times when the fund balance was in good shape. In 1995 the fee for participation in sports at the HS level was $60. It was dropped to $30 around 1998. It was just moved back to $60 in 05-06. Even at $60 the fee is the lowest in the area.
The district also did all of its technology wiring of the buildings out of the general fund. Some other districts ran technology referendums for this.
The Jordan district has been very sensitive to the taxpayers as it has tried to provide educational programs for the students of our district. Our philosophy for the past decade has been to provide the best programs in the most economical ways.
The fact the district has had a fund balance for the past decade has benefited all of us. Other districts have had to come to their public with referendum requests much earlier than our district.
Information on the referendum request is being sent out on October 19th. Please review this and compare the amount of the Jordan request to the already exisiting referendums in our neighboring schools. I think this will show the district is sensitive to the taxpayers of our district.
If I wasn't clear in my...
Back to page topIf I wasn't clear in my earlier comment, I apologize. I did not mean to suggest that a school board would never levy less than the full amount of referendum money available. In fact, I suspected that Jordan would be one of the examples that would come up.
(Mathias Baden is the editor of the Jordan Independent. He can be reached at editor@jordannews.com.)
Mathias, I wasn't upset with...
Back to page topMathias, I wasn't upset with your comment regarding whether or not a board would actually not levy the full amount. Your comment was understandable. I was just replying to it, that, in fact, our board has done that in the past.
Understood. I just wanted to...
Back to page topUnderstood. I just wanted to clarify, too.
Of the school boards I've read about while I've worked or freelanced in Mankato, Cottage Grove, Prior Lake, Savage, and elsewhere, I've been most impressed with Jordan district's view on finances. It sure seems like you've done a lot about keeping propery taxes down. I know my company appreciates that, and I'm sure residents also do.
(Mathias Baden is the editor of the Jordan Independent. He can be reached at editor@jordannews.com.)
Be informed about levy...
Back to page topBe informed about levy referendum!
We received the information on the referendum in the mail today. Hopefully the information is very helpful to all residents in the school district.
The school district is also having a public meeting this coming Monday, October 23rd at 7:30 PM in the Jordan High School Lecture room on the proposed levy referendum. If you need more information or have questions definitely take advantage of this opportunity.
If you are unable to attend this meeting, you can call Larry Kauzlarich, Superintendent of Jordan School District, at 952-492-6200.
Another way to get additional information is to contact the KIDSFIRST Referendum 2006 committee at kidsfirst@mn.rr.com or 952-492-6653.
Finally, this forum on the JI website is another useful way to ask questions, seek information, and participate in a discussion of the proposed levy referendum.
I encourage everyone to take the time to understand the proposed levy referendum and the needs of our school district.
Referendum 2006 citizen's...
Back to page topReferendum 2006 citizen's campaign increasing awareness of the levy referendum vote for our schools on November 7th.
Currently, 88% of school districts in Minnesota have a levy referendum in place to provide revenue for operating the school district. That is 302 out of the 343 school districts in the state. The average per pupil amount for these referendums is $650. Whether you agree with the idea of funding schools with local property tax dollars or not, it is the statutory funding source made available to school districts by the Minnesota Legislature.
You may have seen the Vote Yes for Schools signs out in the community or received a Vote Yes pamphlet at your residence. Our schools need our support! We want you to be aware of the levy referendum on the ballot! We want you to know your support is needed on November 7th!
Brandon Otte is working on a...
Back to page topBrandon Otte is working on a story and statistics to go in the print edition of the paper. For a good look at the referendum, read the Jordan Independent.
The above posts on this Web site are also very informative. Make an educated vote.
(Mathias Baden is the editor of the Jordan Independent. He can be reached at editor@jordannews.com.)
As a Jordan Resident without...
Back to page topAs a Jordan Resident without children in the school system, it is tempting to vote "NO" for the referendum so I dont have to pay an extra $150 or so more in taxes each year for something "I dont use". However, I also understand the value a good school system provides to the quality of life in a community like Jordan.
The real issue is: Are we as taxpayers getting our tax dollars worth? I think that is really what is important to me. I dont mind the higher taxes if the funds are used wisely and in ways that help the students get a better education. That is the purpose of the schools. It is just REALLY hard to fully know if that is the case.
It seems like I never hear about the school's finances or the academic level the students are acheiving except for in a time when money is needed. Maybe I am not looking for it otherwise.
In the end, I will have to trust the judgement and the prudence of those who will ultimately decide how to use the funds and hope that they are wise with our money.
Two comments. 1. Isn't...
Back to page topTwo comments.
1. Isn't Election Day Tuesday, Nov. 7. The forum topic says Nov. 8.
2. Nice to see Eagle Ridge Principal Dave Helke participating in this discussion. You know, Dave, the Savage Pacer has this kind of web site, too, and the school district you work for (Burnsville-Eagan-Savage) has a levy referendum on the ballot too. How about tossing some of your comments Savage's way now and again?
Even though the editor of...
Back to page topEven though the editor of the Savage Pacer is trying to woo away on of the very good contributors to this Web site, I thought it'd be prudent to post the Web address for the Pacer, which is a sister paper of ours.
www.savagepacer.com
The interface is the same for all of the papers printed by Southwest Newspapers.
(Mathias Baden is the editor of the Jordan Independent. He can be reached at editor@jordannews.com.)
Thanks for the correction,...
Back to page topThanks for the correction, Nancy. I made the change. Election day is, in fact, Tuesday, Nov. 7. and not Wednesday, Nov. 8.
Recent editorials have...
Back to page topRecent editorials have suggested that the school district literally rakes in money with an increasing tax base and increasing property valuations. The school district does not get additional money for every additional property built and it does not get additional money everytime the valuation on property increases.
If the school district gets approval to levy $425 per pupil then that is the amount of money the distict gets. The amount of property tax paid by a property owner is affected by the size of the tax base and the valuation of the property, but the total amout of money the district receives from property taxes does not change.
I would propose that we actually benefit as the tax base increases because the portion each individual property owner is responsible for lessens. Simply put, if you need to raise $1000 and there are two people you can get the money from then each person pays $500. Now, if there were four people you can get the money from then each person pays $250. The total amount of money has not changed, only the amount each payer is responsible for.
Great things are happening in District 717! Our family, especially our kids, have had great experiences with the Jordan school district. They are excited about school and they love sharing what they learn and do. I, and the many others, who have been promoting this referendum these past weeks have done so because we see the great things happening in the district for our kids and the community. Join us and show support for a school district doing great things by getting out and voting YES on Tuesday, November 7th.
But doesn't the argument...
Back to page topBut doesn't the argument about taxes received from a growing population hold some credence, since the population estimates are based on a growing number of homes?
The tax base grows with the bigger housing developments, right? Having more children is a good financial thing for the school district, isn't it?
(Mathias Baden is the editor of the Jordan Independent. He can be reached at editor@jordannews.com.)
This all sounds nice, but...
Back to page topThis all sounds nice, but hardly factual. Below are my tax dollar amounts that have gone to the school district, since 2001.
2001: $835
2002: $418
2003: $534
2004: $501
2005: $532
2006: $612
From 2001 to 2002, there was a decrease because of Governor Ventura's rearrangement of funding. Other that this, there is pretty much an upward trend. If these numbers are being cut in half over time with the addition of new homes, I certainly do not see it!
For the most part, I am happy with the schools - but let's be honest, we all have to live within our means in order to provide for our families and raise our children. This is not the job of the schools anyhow!
I would also add that since 2002, my property taxes have increased 50%! I believe everyone is in a similar situation. This is a great deal if I want to cash out and move to Florida, as the increase is based on skyrocketing out of control property values. However, relocating is not my current plan. Residents need a more manageable tax plan, and governments should be living within our means!
If the referrendum fails, the schools can blame the tax and property valuation strategists, not the residents.
Steve Anderson
Whether one agrees with...
Back to page topWhether one agrees with using property tax dollars to fund schools or not, that is the option the Minnesota Legislature has provided to schools. Our school district is being very reasonable in its request. If approved, Jordan would have one of the lowest operating levies in the surrounding area. District leaders are being accountable to all of us by requesting approval of a levy this Tuesday that balances the needs of our schools with the needs of all of us as property owners. I respect the financial decisions being made by our school board and I want quality schools for my kids and I plan to VOTE YES on November 7th.